An update on the licensure front...
I'm impressed, Oregon. You are doing things quickly, you are very reasonable and easy to reach by phone. I got a letter a few weeks ago (unbeknownst to me cause it went to work...BLERG!) and I had some questions. So, I called and you resolved it in under 2 minutes and were not mean, snooty, or exasperated! Not only that, but you're giving me access to my status online so I can check it all I want (until I start EX/RP and the checking behavior will have to go). And, my fingerprints were turned around and sent in for my background check within a couple days.
All in all, Oregon is a good option for licensure and quick turnaround...so far. I haven't received my notification yet, but that is due to some issues (ahem) with my references being slow. I should have it in plenty of time to hit my goal time.
This is a promising relationship. Now if I could only convince someone in your state to give me a fantastic jobby job.
EB, MH...what were your experiences like getting approval?
The joys, frustrations, epic failures, and eventual successes and other bits of randomness I learned along the way.
Thursday, June 30, 2011
Oregon rocks!!
Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Ch-ch-ch-changes!
As some of you probably know (especially if you're reading this in like 2015--I hope I have a job then!--and it's probably changed big-time or it's a virtual-reality tx module or something) the EPPP is going to be slightly different come August 1st, 2011. Oddly enough, that's my birthday. Anyways...
The changes include having only 175 of the 225 total questions count toward your total score. The percentage for passing is still at 70%, and my calculator tells me that is 122.5 or 123 questions right. MH had a great question about the change in percentages/breakdown of the subjects. The ASPPB peeps have published the updates, which are fairly nominal (see pg. 22 to start the info on the subject breakdown). Also, I'm posting a message from the EPPP Prep group where someone said it so succinctly.
While looking through test data wondering about how the test will change in
August, I found an interesting site:
According to ASPPB the test will have the following weights
Biological Bases of Behavior 12% (up 1 % from last year)
Cognitive-Affective 13% (same as last year)
Social And Cultural 12% (same as last year)
Growth & lifespan 12% (down 1% from last year)
Assessment 14% (same as last year)
Treatment, Intervention 14% (down 1% from last year)
Research methods 8% (up 1% from last year)
Ethics 15% (same as last year)
which suggests more focus on Research methos and Biological Bases of Behavior.
Interesting,
xxxx
The changes include having only 175 of the 225 total questions count toward your total score. The percentage for passing is still at 70%, and my calculator tells me that is 122.5 or 123 questions right. MH had a great question about the change in percentages/breakdown of the subjects. The ASPPB peeps have published the updates, which are fairly nominal (see pg. 22 to start the info on the subject breakdown). Also, I'm posting a message from the EPPP Prep group where someone said it so succinctly.
An interesting change
While looking through test data wondering about how the test will change in
August, I found an interesting site:
According to ASPPB the test will have the following weights
Biological Bases of Behavior 12% (up 1 % from last year)
Cognitive-Affective 13% (same as last year)
Social And Cultural 12% (same as last year)
Growth & lifespan 12% (down 1% from last year)
Assessment 14% (same as last year)
Treatment, Intervention 14% (down 1% from last year)
Research methods 8% (up 1% from last year)
Ethics 15% (same as last year)
which suggests more focus on Research methos and Biological Bases of Behavior.
Interesting,
xxxx
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Why is diagnosis so hard?!?!
I'm not sure why, but I am finding the my scores on the Dx questions to be shameful. It's not so much that I can't diagnose someone, but the types of info they want in the section is not usually a list of symptoms and then come up with a diagnosis. It's more like which of the many associated factors of the disorder can you identify, which group has more or less, and what are the most likely comorbidities and symptoms in a group of equally likely comorbid conditions. Tricky, tricky...
So, I've been trying to make it through and make the most effective notes for remembering. I think I got the diagnostic criteria for most of them down just fine, so it will be remembering the nitty-gritty details, like that approximately 60% of adults continue to have achievement, psychological, social, etc. problems when they have a childhood dx of ADHD.
My review of the Exchange flashcards is up and you're welcome to look. There are a couple that follow my AATBS materials, some with AR materials, and one in particular with just test questions about Dx (handy when you want a quick run through of just that subject) There is also an outline based on the AATBS materials from the EPPP Prep group.
Here's to finishing this section and being a diagnostic beast (and by beast, I mean right at least 70% of the time).
So, I've been trying to make it through and make the most effective notes for remembering. I think I got the diagnostic criteria for most of them down just fine, so it will be remembering the nitty-gritty details, like that approximately 60% of adults continue to have achievement, psychological, social, etc. problems when they have a childhood dx of ADHD.
My review of the Exchange flashcards is up and you're welcome to look. There are a couple that follow my AATBS materials, some with AR materials, and one in particular with just test questions about Dx (handy when you want a quick run through of just that subject) There is also an outline based on the AATBS materials from the EPPP Prep group.
Here's to finishing this section and being a diagnostic beast (and by beast, I mean right at least 70% of the time).
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Tuesday, June 28, 2011
Why not study like I workout?!?!
I like this tactic of not forgetting the strengths, and am trying to keep in mind ceiling and floor effects, regression to the mean, and all that jazz. I'm thinking that building on a strength will be good until I hit my ceiling, wherever that may be (when I feel saturated with info, when I consistently answer the AATBS end-of-chapter questions right, when my practice test scores on that section are stable). Then it's maintenance. Like running my 1.5 milers at a steady speed, not building speed or distance.
As for weaknesses, I am thinking I have a lot of room to grow so I won't neglect them. But, I'm not going to give them a SUPER amount of time either. I figure that any studying in these weakness areas (I/O, Development, Social) will probably give me some pretty good gains and a moderate amount will be sufficient. In other words, I'm not going to bother memorizing every leadership style theory and job satisfaction statistic. I think there are much better ways to spend my time. I'll do just enough to get a moderate amount of details so I can get a few more right in the end. Getting back to my analogy...I know that speed is not my forte in running, nor will it ever be. BUT, I can work on once a week and it will end up helping me with endurance and adding mileage.
Speaking of all this, I should probably get back to studying!
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Sunday, June 26, 2011
The Real World Application: Florida
I have been at a conference in FL for the past week, and struggling to find time to study, especially any new content. So, I've been doing my best to fit in some review here and there (thank you electronic flashcards!). Also, I have been, much to the annoyance of my friends/fellow postdocs, finding little ways to apply the knowledge I am trying desperately to consolidate.
Case in point: The Skinner Lizard
Last night we came back from Miami and were getting ready to settle in when my friend screams and sees a little lizard in our room. She is begging me to get rid of it (apparently when you let people know you grew up in Montana on a farm you are the resident "icky thing remover). Little guy was in the closet and I tried a couple things to get him to go toward the door, no dice. Took a hanger started banging it near him hoping he would move away from it, and successively prompted him out the door. The first thing out of my mouth was, "So, Becky, that was technically negative reinforcement on my behavior because it increased the hanger banging and removed the negative stimulus, the lizard." I went on to try to describe what type of operant conditioning principles could be applied to the lizards behavior. NERD ALERT!
That's my real world application story. Someday soon I will be back to normal.
Case in point: The Skinner Lizard
Last night we came back from Miami and were getting ready to settle in when my friend screams and sees a little lizard in our room. She is begging me to get rid of it (apparently when you let people know you grew up in Montana on a farm you are the resident "icky thing remover). Little guy was in the closet and I tried a couple things to get him to go toward the door, no dice. Took a hanger started banging it near him hoping he would move away from it, and successively prompted him out the door. The first thing out of my mouth was, "So, Becky, that was technically negative reinforcement on my behavior because it increased the hanger banging and removed the negative stimulus, the lizard." I went on to try to describe what type of operant conditioning principles could be applied to the lizards behavior. NERD ALERT!
That's my real world application story. Someday soon I will be back to normal.
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Thursday, June 23, 2011
Updates on the studying. And so it goes.
First, a shout out to MH for her December baseline score of 132! Um, maybe you should just take it now?!?! That's pretty f'ing sweet, I'm just sayin'.
So, the studying is going. We're all activated and working toward the goal. This week has been challenging for me because I'm traveling and at a conference, so not a ton of free time or energy. A couple of things I try to do to compensate is review my flashcards and do practice questions from my iPod app, EPPP Q&A. It's going marginally well, but not great. I'm probably gonna pay for it next week when I have to catch up on getting through new content. Hey, maybe I'll actually be productive on the plane ride back?!? (probably not)
REVIEW:
The EPPP Q&A app from StudyPsych was the $10 version. There are 5 sets of 200 questions each. The quality of the questions is fair to good. A lot of them show up on the other practice tests, but some seem like minutiae. It's been useful so far and was fairly inexpensive, but I haven't used other apps so there may be better ones out there. StudyPsych has a few different versions, if you're looking. There has been a little talk on the EPPP Prep group, but no one has put up reviews of apps yet. MH, EB, or others heard of any good ones?
So, the studying is going. We're all activated and working toward the goal. This week has been challenging for me because I'm traveling and at a conference, so not a ton of free time or energy. A couple of things I try to do to compensate is review my flashcards and do practice questions from my iPod app, EPPP Q&A. It's going marginally well, but not great. I'm probably gonna pay for it next week when I have to catch up on getting through new content. Hey, maybe I'll actually be productive on the plane ride back?!? (probably not)
REVIEW:
The EPPP Q&A app from StudyPsych was the $10 version. There are 5 sets of 200 questions each. The quality of the questions is fair to good. A lot of them show up on the other practice tests, but some seem like minutiae. It's been useful so far and was fairly inexpensive, but I haven't used other apps so there may be better ones out there. StudyPsych has a few different versions, if you're looking. There has been a little talk on the EPPP Prep group, but no one has put up reviews of apps yet. MH, EB, or others heard of any good ones?
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Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Fingerprints: So much for a life of crime.
Fingerprinting, what a pain in the arse.
Not that I mind having my background checked--after working at 3 VA's and getting fingerprinted at each one--I'm pretty sure I'm clean. But, it can be an annoying task, especially if the state you are getting licensed in has specific, quirky requests. And, it's more money, for those of you thinking of how much to budget for this beastly licensing task.
For instance, in California, the fingerprinting procedures have gone all digital and most everywhere around that has fingerprinting services have Live Scan for that very reason (p.s. You can not get fingerprinted at the police stations in CA anymore. They've outsourced it.). And, interestingly/frustratingly, Oregon wants/requires the old FBI card with ink fingerprints. Here's where the extra effort comes in, trying to find places that still do ink. So, FYI, if you live in CA or another digitized fingerprint state and are applying to a traditional-ink state, budget time for that and it takes a bit for the background check, so the EARLIER THE BETTER!
Bottom line: plan early, check out your state requirements and the resources around you (esp. if you don't live in the same state you are applying), and keep a little money aside for it.
All that rant to say that it is done! I just mailed them off today and the only thing potentially outstanding are my references. So, we'll see how long it takes from when I get the notice they have it. I'm starting the clock now.
Not that I mind having my background checked--after working at 3 VA's and getting fingerprinted at each one--I'm pretty sure I'm clean. But, it can be an annoying task, especially if the state you are getting licensed in has specific, quirky requests. And, it's more money, for those of you thinking of how much to budget for this beastly licensing task.
For instance, in California, the fingerprinting procedures have gone all digital and most everywhere around that has fingerprinting services have Live Scan for that very reason (p.s. You can not get fingerprinted at the police stations in CA anymore. They've outsourced it.). And, interestingly/frustratingly, Oregon wants/requires the old FBI card with ink fingerprints. Here's where the extra effort comes in, trying to find places that still do ink. So, FYI, if you live in CA or another digitized fingerprint state and are applying to a traditional-ink state, budget time for that and it takes a bit for the background check, so the EARLIER THE BETTER!
Bottom line: plan early, check out your state requirements and the resources around you (esp. if you don't live in the same state you are applying), and keep a little money aside for it.
All that rant to say that it is done! I just mailed them off today and the only thing potentially outstanding are my references. So, we'll see how long it takes from when I get the notice they have it. I'm starting the clock now.
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"That is most obviously the wrong answer, so it must be right?" and other mindgames.
I'm thinking that taking practice tests has had a couple of unintended consequences, some good and some not so fantastic in the moment.
One thing I have noticed is that I play a lot of mindgames, including the one mentioned in the title. Wonder what types of games everyone else plays? How about, "It can't be c, I just picked c like three times. But, it really seems like it's c."Ever played that? I do. The test materials people warned me not to play the "what if?" game with questions, but I do sometimes. Granted, it's all about learning how to take the test, so getting these games out and in the open is maybe part of the process.
An unintended bonus is that it is teaching me how to discriminate better in my study materials. I didn't realize this, but yesterday when I was going through my Ethics and L&B flashcards for a refresher, I found myself saying, "that is stupid, they never ask anything like that". When I first made the flashcards I didn't realize this, but now that I have taken a few tests I definitely process information and choose the how and what I try to encode differently. How do I know this strategy is working? I don't yet, but I'm hoping more practice tests will tell me. :) Good thing I have like a million thanks to my friends!
One thing I have noticed is that I play a lot of mindgames, including the one mentioned in the title. Wonder what types of games everyone else plays? How about, "It can't be c, I just picked c like three times. But, it really seems like it's c."Ever played that? I do. The test materials people warned me not to play the "what if?" game with questions, but I do sometimes. Granted, it's all about learning how to take the test, so getting these games out and in the open is maybe part of the process.
An unintended bonus is that it is teaching me how to discriminate better in my study materials. I didn't realize this, but yesterday when I was going through my Ethics and L&B flashcards for a refresher, I found myself saying, "that is stupid, they never ask anything like that". When I first made the flashcards I didn't realize this, but now that I have taken a few tests I definitely process information and choose the how and what I try to encode differently. How do I know this strategy is working? I don't yet, but I'm hoping more practice tests will tell me. :) Good thing I have like a million thanks to my friends!
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Saturday, June 18, 2011
Twenty in the books. Have I learned?
This was my first week of officially keeping track and being systematic in my studying. I have logged a little over 20 hours, not including these practice tests. I think I'm going to have to revise my "practice tests don't count" rule, cause the handwritten practice tests take considerably longer, and it is much more actual studying when you have to go back through your own questions, score them, and get a rationale for each one vs. computer spit-out and no item-by-item review.
Okay so the question of the day is "Have I learned?"
Based on my practice tests, I think so. (I'm guessing this is the most ecologically valid way to assess this, though there is some noise in there.) I just scored my second practice test (did I mention it is way more work by hand?) and it was a slight overall improvement (from 62 to 65.5%). More striking for me was the gains in specific areas that seemed to be related to the areas that I have focused on this week (Ethics, L&B, and Development). I made good gains in L&B and Development, while staying steady with Ethics (took my baseline after studying that initially anyway). I fluctuated in other areas, but I'm going to expect that until I make a concerted effort (review materials, flashcard-making, focused practice items) to cover an area. At least this is the attribution I'm making at 10:30pm on a Saturday night.
My take-home this week is that what I'm doing seems to be working at this stage. Course, I wouldn't be a good psychologist/scientist if I didn't keep assessing and accommodating based on my findings....so I'll keep geeking out on that.
Re: hand-scoring...
I forgot to print off some of my fancy answer sheets, so it would have been way easier. I'm also going to make a more detailed subject-scoring part.
Okay so the question of the day is "Have I learned?"
Based on my practice tests, I think so. (I'm guessing this is the most ecologically valid way to assess this, though there is some noise in there.) I just scored my second practice test (did I mention it is way more work by hand?) and it was a slight overall improvement (from 62 to 65.5%). More striking for me was the gains in specific areas that seemed to be related to the areas that I have focused on this week (Ethics, L&B, and Development). I made good gains in L&B and Development, while staying steady with Ethics (took my baseline after studying that initially anyway). I fluctuated in other areas, but I'm going to expect that until I make a concerted effort (review materials, flashcard-making, focused practice items) to cover an area. At least this is the attribution I'm making at 10:30pm on a Saturday night.
My take-home this week is that what I'm doing seems to be working at this stage. Course, I wouldn't be a good psychologist/scientist if I didn't keep assessing and accommodating based on my findings....so I'll keep geeking out on that.
Re: hand-scoring...
I forgot to print off some of my fancy answer sheets, so it would have been way easier. I'm also going to make a more detailed subject-scoring part.
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Friday, June 17, 2011
One nanostein closer...
Me: 1 Learning and Behavior: 0
My attack has been not-so-swift and not exactly efficient, but I'm getting there!
Finished my review of the AATBS materials and simultaneously creating my electronic flash cards. BTW, thanks Exchange, and whoever this guy is for also making AATBS-based flash cards for me to "borrow". Just as an FYI, his were light on the memory and forgetting, so I supplemented with my own.
I think I have listened to the AATBS cd three times, and am starting to get annoyed by the mouth noises (Adria, you would appreciate this) she makes. Good job for them for having superior sound quality and I know she has to produce saliva like all of us, but it's still annoying to me.
Took the practice items at the end of the AATBS materials and got a 28/30. (Holla at your boy when you see him in the street!) Given what I just learned about learning and memory, this is not too surprising, but I hope it holds. I will be engaging in some elaborative rehearsal to help store and later retrieve this info.
Bring it on.
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Thursday, June 16, 2011
Your Rockstar Score of 124!
Okay, So let me put your score of 124 into perspective.... I paid a lot of money to take a class so I could pass this SOB on the first try, because I needed special help. You have similar materials from the course with AATBS. What I learned there, is that to secure a passing score, you need to score a 142/200. That's equivalent to something over a 500 on the test. You are very close to being there. A "good" score on the first practice test, according to our class, was a 92/200 on the first go-around. So, you're way above average. I believe I scored in the 80s/200 on the first practice test. So, you're GOLDEN! A couple of months of studying and you're going to pass this thing! Love ya! Adria
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Learning and Burning
Now that I've completely mastered Ethics (insert snort), I am moving on to Learning and Behavior Therapy. As evidenced by my practice test, I suck at it. Hence, it is up next with plans to work it out til it is sucking air and begging for mercy. I started with listening to the AR and AATBS audio files to get me in the mood...
Plan:
1. Read/review my AATBS materials
2. Create/steal/be inspired by flashcards and put them in my fancy flashcard machine.
3. Practice questions
4. Listen to audio files again.
5. Practice questions
(Rinse, repeat)
In my quest to be a good consumer, I have looked over the free and recommended materials from the Exchange and EPPP-Prep group to see if I can take back some control, quell some anxiety by gathering information, and pick out the best options (for me).
REVIEW/THOUGHTS:
--Flashcards--
There are several options at the Exchange and I have found some better than others. (FOR A REVIEW of specific sets, see my document.)
General things to keep in mind when choosing:
1. Amount of info--Do you want a lot of information that is fairly straight forward and memorizable (e.g., terms with short descriptions). Or are you wanting fewer, in a question/answer format where you integrate info together to reason the answer.
2. Organization---Are you an "alphabetical" type person, want things random so you can challenge your brain, need it to follow your study materials scheme/be organized conceptually?
3. No one is perfect--Some flashcards in the Exchange will have errors, it's inevitable. There is an edit option if you want to fix 'em up, or if you are doing the copy-paste to your own format, just make sure they are error-free!
--Outlines--
There are a couple of options available on the EPPP-Prep group on Yahoo groups.
1. Option 1- If you're using the AATBS study materials like me, there is a great outline that follows the study material and are fairly comprehensive, yet oddly succinct (I'll leave you to ponder that paradox.)
2. Option 2- If you like brief, conceptual flow, well-organized outlines that you can carry around and quickly prompt yourself through the material, this might be one. Some brief descriptions of main concepts.
3. Option 3- This has a little of both the detailed description and then at the end has a one-pager concept list that may be especially useful once you get a little handle on the materials.
On to world dominance of all things learning and behavior.
Plan:
1. Read/review my AATBS materials
2. Create/steal/be inspired by flashcards and put them in my fancy flashcard machine.
3. Practice questions
4. Listen to audio files again.
5. Practice questions
(Rinse, repeat)
In my quest to be a good consumer, I have looked over the free and recommended materials from the Exchange and EPPP-Prep group to see if I can take back some control, quell some anxiety by gathering information, and pick out the best options (for me).
REVIEW/THOUGHTS:
--Flashcards--
There are several options at the Exchange and I have found some better than others. (FOR A REVIEW of specific sets, see my document.)
General things to keep in mind when choosing:
1. Amount of info--Do you want a lot of information that is fairly straight forward and memorizable (e.g., terms with short descriptions). Or are you wanting fewer, in a question/answer format where you integrate info together to reason the answer.
2. Organization---Are you an "alphabetical" type person, want things random so you can challenge your brain, need it to follow your study materials scheme/be organized conceptually?
3. No one is perfect--Some flashcards in the Exchange will have errors, it's inevitable. There is an edit option if you want to fix 'em up, or if you are doing the copy-paste to your own format, just make sure they are error-free!
--Outlines--
There are a couple of options available on the EPPP-Prep group on Yahoo groups.
1. Option 1- If you're using the AATBS study materials like me, there is a great outline that follows the study material and are fairly comprehensive, yet oddly succinct (I'll leave you to ponder that paradox.)
2. Option 2- If you like brief, conceptual flow, well-organized outlines that you can carry around and quickly prompt yourself through the material, this might be one. Some brief descriptions of main concepts.
3. Option 3- This has a little of both the detailed description and then at the end has a one-pager concept list that may be especially useful once you get a little handle on the materials.
On to world dominance of all things learning and behavior.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Base(line)
It is finished.
The first (official) practice test is in the books and I survived with some academic dignity intact. 62%, haters. Full disclosure of my mediocrity on display.
**See below for general review of my experience.**
Initial thoughts...
1. Ouch, test construction, I thought we were tight.
2. Apparently all that Ethics work I've been doing is paying off. (Yea, boi!)
3. My clinical psych score is low, but in my defense I haven't been doing clinical work for a year--pretty crappy excuse, eh?
4. My behaviorist friends (Adria) should be ashamed of me.
5. Not to shabby on I/O. A shout out to the AATBS audio files for some exposure.
6. I should not be raising children, because I know almost nothing about development.
7. This score is likely to go up as I will not need to be regressing to the mean (holla).
REVIEW:
This test was a really good idea, it is Academic Review by the way and is in my "Things I've found useful" section. MH & EB both recommended this as a strategy for a good baseline. Also, if you only have free/hand-scored practice tests this gives you a chance to get a) total score, b) breakdown of subject matter, c) and comparison to the mean scores easily.
Among the advantages is that it will give you a good picture of your strengths and weaknesses and potentially give some focus to your studying, which I will not turn down at this point.
FYI...there are other practice exams by the Taylor Study Method and AATBS, similar to this one from Academic Review (PsychPrep has sample questions, but don't think it is in a full test format with scoring, etc). HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use one!
The first (official) practice test is in the books and I survived with some academic dignity intact. 62%, haters. Full disclosure of my mediocrity on display.
**See below for general review of my experience.**
Initial thoughts...
1. Ouch, test construction, I thought we were tight.
2. Apparently all that Ethics work I've been doing is paying off. (Yea, boi!)
3. My clinical psych score is low, but in my defense I haven't been doing clinical work for a year--pretty crappy excuse, eh?
4. My behaviorist friends (Adria) should be ashamed of me.
5. Not to shabby on I/O. A shout out to the AATBS audio files for some exposure.
6. I should not be raising children, because I know almost nothing about development.
7. This score is likely to go up as I will not need to be regressing to the mean (holla).
REVIEW:
This test was a really good idea, it is Academic Review by the way and is in my "Things I've found useful" section. MH & EB both recommended this as a strategy for a good baseline. Also, if you only have free/hand-scored practice tests this gives you a chance to get a) total score, b) breakdown of subject matter, c) and comparison to the mean scores easily.
Among the advantages is that it will give you a good picture of your strengths and weaknesses and potentially give some focus to your studying, which I will not turn down at this point.
FYI...there are other practice exams by the Taylor Study Method and AATBS, similar to this one from Academic Review (PsychPrep has sample questions, but don't think it is in a full test format with scoring, etc). HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use one!
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Tuesday, June 14, 2011
Practice Makes Perfect
Practice tests, yo.
I've put all the ones that I currently have up on my google docs. Also, there is a cool answer sheet template that someone from the wonderful EPPP Yahoo group made. It will also be a perma-link! I hope they all work, but comment or contact me if you can't get to them.
EB, MH...I need to go take that practice test you have been raving about. Updates later.
I've put all the ones that I currently have up on my google docs. Also, there is a cool answer sheet template that someone from the wonderful EPPP Yahoo group made. It will also be a perma-link! I hope they all work, but comment or contact me if you can't get to them.
EB, MH...I need to go take that practice test you have been raving about. Updates later.
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License to Chill
Strap in, it's a long one.
So, if you are at all like me, you were ill-prepared to figure out how this licensure thing is really supposed to work. Kudos to your mentors/training sites if you are not like me and feel completely prepared and have clear steps toward licensure in the state of your choice outlined in your internship training notebook.
For the rest of us, we have to figure out where we want to apply (easier for some, true), when we want to apply (considering things like getting notification to take the EPPP), and how in the world the application is supposed to be filled out and to whom to send those friggin' forms.
Where:
(Note: The link above will take you to a place with links to each state's board of psych site, links to laws, etc. The ASPPB has a few bits of info by state--passing EPPP scores, oral exam qualifications, etc.)
Depends on a few things, including your job type. If you work for the Feds (VA, etc) you can hold a license in any state and work in any VA (as EB pointed out, you cannot get a side private practice job unless licensed in that state though, note to selves). Or, if you aren't sure where you will work you can either apply where you are currently, or to another state of your choice to start the process. In these cases, either choose the state you want to or have a job in, or PICK A STATE where the a) licensure requirements are straight forward, b) the board is not so backed up it will take you 4 months to get application processed and your EPPP notification, c) the fees may be more reasonable, and/or d) the hoops for licensure are a little less cumbersome (i.e., no oral exam, open book or no jurisprudence exam, etc). There are probably other considerations in the PICK A STATE game, but these are the ones I have heard the most. Also, think about mobility (APA Early Career Article), if there is reciprocity or other provisions. I think you are ahead of the game if and when you realize not all states are the same, nor are they created equal in their licensing requirements (pre and post-doc hours required, complexity of forms---ahem, California, extra classes---ahem, California, oral exam, jurisprudence exam). Check them out! I'm all about informed decision-making. (P.S. I chose Oregon. Mostly because they emailed me back about a stupid question within a business day.)
When:
This can be tricky. (P.S. The ASPPB has some information on the timing, scheduling, etc. that was helpful. The FAQ’s and pg. 4 of a PDFdocument have info on the full timing from application, approval, notification, online application to PES, fee and starting your 60 day window for scheduling/taking exam.) Each state may have slightly different procedures for notifying, but the ASPPB and others have said that once your state application is processed they will notify you by paper or electronically that you have been approved and prompt you to contact PES. Then, it is up to you when you want to start your 60 day window. According to the ASPPB materials, once you pay the $450 fee, your 60 days starts. Shockingly, it is attached them getting your money. Oh, and they say not to forget that the testing people also get $65 of your money for whatever it is that they do that is special (e.g., watch you like a hawk for any weird behaviors like taking off your jacket in the middle of the test).
I have heard and read (EPPPYahoo group) several stories from applicants where it took longer (weeks or months) than they expected to be cleared by the state jurisdiction to take the EPPP. FYI, California is one in which it may take 3-4 months or so to process your application so consider that in your study timeline and plan. At least according to my sources (friends). When I decided where to apply I tried to investigate how long people were saying it was taking them to get their applications processed and the state to approve them to take the EPPP. Oregon says on their site, 2-4 weeks, but I will give an update when I actually get approved.
So, if you are at all like me, you were ill-prepared to figure out how this licensure thing is really supposed to work. Kudos to your mentors/training sites if you are not like me and feel completely prepared and have clear steps toward licensure in the state of your choice outlined in your internship training notebook.
Where:
(Note: The link above will take you to a place with links to each state's board of psych site, links to laws, etc. The ASPPB has a few bits of info by state--passing EPPP scores, oral exam qualifications, etc.)
Depends on a few things, including your job type. If you work for the Feds (VA, etc) you can hold a license in any state and work in any VA (as EB pointed out, you cannot get a side private practice job unless licensed in that state though, note to selves). Or, if you aren't sure where you will work you can either apply where you are currently, or to another state of your choice to start the process. In these cases, either choose the state you want to or have a job in, or PICK A STATE where the a) licensure requirements are straight forward, b) the board is not so backed up it will take you 4 months to get application processed and your EPPP notification, c) the fees may be more reasonable, and/or d) the hoops for licensure are a little less cumbersome (i.e., no oral exam, open book or no jurisprudence exam, etc). There are probably other considerations in the PICK A STATE game, but these are the ones I have heard the most. Also, think about mobility (APA Early Career Article), if there is reciprocity or other provisions. I think you are ahead of the game if and when you realize not all states are the same, nor are they created equal in their licensing requirements (pre and post-doc hours required, complexity of forms---ahem, California, extra classes---ahem, California, oral exam, jurisprudence exam). Check them out! I'm all about informed decision-making. (P.S. I chose Oregon. Mostly because they emailed me back about a stupid question within a business day.)
When:
This can be tricky. (P.S. The ASPPB has some information on the timing, scheduling, etc. that was helpful. The FAQ’s and pg. 4 of a PDFdocument have info on the full timing from application, approval, notification, online application to PES, fee and starting your 60 day window for scheduling/taking exam.) Each state may have slightly different procedures for notifying, but the ASPPB and others have said that once your state application is processed they will notify you by paper or electronically that you have been approved and prompt you to contact PES. Then, it is up to you when you want to start your 60 day window. According to the ASPPB materials, once you pay the $450 fee, your 60 days starts. Shockingly, it is attached them getting your money. Oh, and they say not to forget that the testing people also get $65 of your money for whatever it is that they do that is special (e.g., watch you like a hawk for any weird behaviors like taking off your jacket in the middle of the test).
I have heard and read (EPPPYahoo group) several stories from applicants where it took longer (weeks or months) than they expected to be cleared by the state jurisdiction to take the EPPP. FYI, California is one in which it may take 3-4 months or so to process your application so consider that in your study timeline and plan. At least according to my sources (friends). When I decided where to apply I tried to investigate how long people were saying it was taking them to get their applications processed and the state to approve them to take the EPPP. Oregon says on their site, 2-4 weeks, but I will give an update when I actually get approved.
Forms:
This will vary widely depending on the state to which you apply. For California, if you completed your training experience(s) in the state, there is a supervisor contract you should have (or will now figure out how to do and post-date, but watch the date on the bottom of the form saying when the form was updated…they are tricky mofo’s) filled out. For a lot of other states I’ve heard about there are verification of experience forms that may or may not say they want a supervisor from your internship and from your post-doc, some may say from pre-doc work if they are 86’ing their post-doc requirements. The bottom line I have found…everyone pretty much has their training director fill those out. Don’t know why, but one of my friends was told by the board, “Oh yeah, we ask for a supervisor, but we really just want your training directors.” So, when in doubt, I guess get your DCT to fill out your verification of experience, however that may look state by state. My internship director told me he is now going to recommend everyone get licensed in Oregon because the forms are so easy (keep in mind he is at a California site). There are probably also reference forms from non-supervisors, some kind of transcript request or verification of degree from your university TD, miscellaneous information about you, FINGERPRINTING!, and other things like WAY TOO MUCH MONEY. Be prepared to need more stuff than you think you would and you’ll be set. GIVE YOURSELF TIME for this part and maybe not think, “Oh, I’ll just print off the application and send it in after a couple days.” It might take longer than a couple days, including getting all your people set up with their forms and what to do with them For example, I had a temporary license in another state while I was in grad school, and they wanted that info so I had to dig up my old license number and dates.
Finally…you have applied and can start worrying about really important things, like the multi-trait multi-method framework.
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Monday, June 13, 2011
EPPP Study Log--My magnum opus for the day.
Today my friend MH, who is also studying for the EPPP, had a great suggestion. An accountability/reinforcing/self-efficacy building study log! There are three of us studying around the same time, in very different places, (me, MH, EB) and this is a way for us to all stay in touch and get a little accountability.
Because I was practicing the Ethics flashcards I made yesterday, I thought it would be the perfect distraction. HOURS later, I finally finished. I spent forever trying to find a way to embed a table or study log into this blog with little to show. I finally decided on using my spreadsheet prowess and create a log in google docs that we could all access. Here is a picture for all of you who are interested.
We will keep track of the minutes per day, minutes per week (auto-summed), and the practice tests scores (weekly average auto-calculated). If you are interested in this awesome piece of workwomanship, I have made it a public template in google docs. We're hoping this will help keep the mo' going. It will also be a perma-link on this blog.
This one is for my homies (you can't see it but I'm taking a drink for you MH & EB).
Because I was practicing the Ethics flashcards I made yesterday, I thought it would be the perfect distraction. HOURS later, I finally finished. I spent forever trying to find a way to embed a table or study log into this blog with little to show. I finally decided on using my spreadsheet prowess and create a log in google docs that we could all access. Here is a picture for all of you who are interested.
We will keep track of the minutes per day, minutes per week (auto-summed), and the practice tests scores (weekly average auto-calculated). If you are interested in this awesome piece of workwomanship, I have made it a public template in google docs. We're hoping this will help keep the mo' going. It will also be a perma-link on this blog.
This one is for my homies (you can't see it but I'm taking a drink for you MH & EB).
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Sunday, June 12, 2011
Keep to the Code...
Ethics.
Those of you who know me will realize how awesome it is that studying ethics can be related to the pirate life. I have been going over the Ethics materials and trying to compose uncomplicated, small-bits-of-info type flashcards and find that the answer "keep to the Code" keeps running through my brain. At least I've found my mantra for my upcoming week of Ethics.
If you want a blow-by-blow of the Ethics Code in flashcard form, the Exchange has come through. There are several APA Ethics Code flashcards available there.
Arrrrrrrgh!
Those of you who know me will realize how awesome it is that studying ethics can be related to the pirate life. I have been going over the Ethics materials and trying to compose uncomplicated, small-bits-of-info type flashcards and find that the answer "keep to the Code" keeps running through my brain. At least I've found my mantra for my upcoming week of Ethics.
If you want a blow-by-blow of the Ethics Code in flashcard form, the Exchange has come through. There are several APA Ethics Code flashcards available there.
Arrrrrrrgh!
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First week of studying. Also known as WTF week.
Well, I finally bit the bullet and decided to take this sucker. EB, you will be happy to hear this, I am sure. So, I dug my copied AATBS materials out of some drawer from where it had been collecting dust and am sluggishly making my way through. Since I have officially started, I though I might as well also commence with the procrastination strategies. These have included making this blog, and finding new and interesting study guides, aids, free stuff, etc.
I stumbled on the How to Pass the EPPP Exam Without Even Trying , which aside from secretly hating them for naming their blog that, they have A LOT of helpful articles, resources, and tips. A place I would definitely check out if you are getting yourself together. I also found this site for flashcard exchange that has about 100 or so sets of shared EPPP flashcards. There is a one time fee of $20 if you want to be able to print or export them, but free if you want to look through them, study on or offline, and I have done the copy and paste route, which has worked so far. Good variety, but some are better than others, obviously, because some yahoos put like fifty bits of information on one card (kind of defeats the purpose of a flashcard, eh?).
Okay, so here is my plan:
1. Study everyday.
2. Study for 16-20 hours per week on average (not including practice tests).
3. Study for 2 months, max 3.
4. Read through all these crazy AATBS materials at least once. It couldn't hurt.
5. Listen to audio CDs while traveling and at the beach.
6. Make flashcards (with a small amount of information on each one) and go through a section, at least, daily.
7. Monitor personal insanity level and take breaks when needed.
8. Take 2-3 practice tests a week initially. Up to one or more per day as it gets closer.
9. Try not to OD on coffee, sugar, and other (legally obtained) stimulants.
10. Take this mofo when I can get a steady 72-75 on my practice tests.
That doesn't sound like much?!?!?
Any suggestions along the way would be great.
I stumbled on the How to Pass the EPPP Exam Without Even Trying , which aside from secretly hating them for naming their blog that, they have A LOT of helpful articles, resources, and tips. A place I would definitely check out if you are getting yourself together. I also found this site for flashcard exchange that has about 100 or so sets of shared EPPP flashcards. There is a one time fee of $20 if you want to be able to print or export them, but free if you want to look through them, study on or offline, and I have done the copy and paste route, which has worked so far. Good variety, but some are better than others, obviously, because some yahoos put like fifty bits of information on one card (kind of defeats the purpose of a flashcard, eh?).
Okay, so here is my plan:
1. Study everyday.
2. Study for 16-20 hours per week on average (not including practice tests).
3. Study for 2 months, max 3.
4. Read through all these crazy AATBS materials at least once. It couldn't hurt.
5. Listen to audio CDs while traveling and at the beach.
6. Make flashcards (with a small amount of information on each one) and go through a section, at least, daily.
7. Monitor personal insanity level and take breaks when needed.
8. Take 2-3 practice tests a week initially. Up to one or more per day as it gets closer.
9. Try not to OD on coffee, sugar, and other (legally obtained) stimulants.
10. Take this mofo when I can get a steady 72-75 on my practice tests.
That doesn't sound like much?!?!?
Any suggestions along the way would be great.
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